Episode 6

Music Artist and Content Creator A Payne Interview

Published on: 20th February, 2024

I sit down with artist and content creator A Payne to chop it up.

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What is up guys and gals?

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This is Dope for Life, the

host of the Hyperview podcast.

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And I'm here today with

a very special guest.

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I am here with none other than A Pain, a

singer, songwriter, and content creator,

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hailing from Stockton, California.

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And go ahead, introduce yourself.

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I appreciate you for coming on to the

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a payne: show.

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Definitely.

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Thank you for having me.

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My name is A Pain.

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I'm originally from Stockton, California.

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Sacramento has been like

my performance home.

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Like that's where like I've learned

so much like the music game.

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I made so many great

friends and connections.

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So I'm so blessed to, you know,

doing my thing, you know, so.

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Right.

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rob: No, that's dope.

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That's dope.

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And I'm, I'm, we're,

Sacramento's glad to have you.

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I have.

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I like to binge like

the day of the artist.

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Like YouTube page, Facebook

page, like everything.

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Just so like, I kind of get a vibe of who

you are as an artist or as whatever you

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are in the capacity of your creativity.

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Right.

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Cause I don't like to, I try not to, you

know, put everybody in the, to a box.

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Cause people like to be

whatever they would like to be.

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But I want to see you in your element.

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Right.

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And, no, you've got, like, ridiculously

dope videos, right, like, dope songs

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and I could just tell you put a

lot of meticulous nature into your

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craft, you know what I mean, like

thinking about it, making sure that

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it looks good and that the quality

is, is of a certain standard, right?

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Like, because it's one thing to

have like one good video, right?

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But then to have like multiple,

it'd be like, okay, like this is a

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standard that this person has to,

and they want to make sure every

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time they come in they come correct.

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a payne: Right.

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Well, you know, like.

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I do the best that I can, especially

with the budget that I have, but you

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know, God has been very good to me.

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This is like, I grew up, my background

as a child, I grew up singing in

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choirs, doing school performances,

drama class, that type of thing.

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But

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we didn't necessarily have

like a performing arts school.

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I feel like if I would have been

in a performing arts environment.

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I would already be, I guess, there

already, but I didn't really start I

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didn't start songwriting until my 20s.

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So with my daughter's dad.

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And

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rob: what do you mean by songwriting?

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Like, full blown songs or just literally

just writing lyrics in general?

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a payne: I did poetry as a like, as

a middle school, you know, like I did

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poetry and all those types of things.

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And I, I actually started off like

when I was a kid, I was shy to sing.

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So I used to rap, but it was horrible.

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Those ain't no, don't get me wrong.

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Like I always had the, the, I have

the gift of writing like English

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was one of my favorite subjects.

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And Love reading a lot as a child,

you know, I mean, we had social

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media to a certain extent, but

it wasn't like, yeah, it is now.

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So I used to write short stories

and I for, you know, like, I don't

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know, Sacramento has like senior

portfolio or senior project, you

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know, like your final project.

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So for my final project, I wrote a book.

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Okay.

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So I always like, I

always like, like, Okay.

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Romance novels and like urban

love stories and shit like Eric

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Jerome Dickey and what's the name?

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Zayn and all that shit, so.

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I used to be reading

stuff I had on, but it's

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rob: like, what?

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Right.

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Ghetto romance, pretty much.

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I think we all got introduced to Zayn,

like if you are 89 and beyond, right?

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Okay,

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a payne: we had Eric Jerome

Dickey, we had Zayn, we had Sister

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rob: Soulja.

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And yeah, no, you for, you for sure

should not have been reading that shit.

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But

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a payne: why not?

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Cause I should be in class like, girl,

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rob: And to be honest though, I can't

even be mad at you if you, if it got you

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into a book, you know what I'm saying?

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Cause reading is just a different

way of like consuming information

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because that's your imagination.

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There's somebody else's word, but it's

like, but your mind has to make it come

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alive versus you watching something on TV.

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And then that's you consuming

somebody else's like.

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Imagery, but like, that's

you, I'm sorry, not

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a payne: to cut you off.

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No, I also like Donald goings.

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Like I liked, like, I mean, now

I'm from Stockton, California.

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It's, I guess it's considered hood

now, but like in the nineties, we're

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like a lower middle class family.

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You know what I'm saying?

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I didn't grow up like.

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In the ghetto, but I went to school, like,

my friends was from the ghetto, but it

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was cool, like, we, we partners, we don't

care, you know, so, it's like, I'm, I'm

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you know, I'm seasoned, I'm well versed in

the suburbs, and, and the ghetto, so not,

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like, I just, you know, I always used to,

I loved reading, and I loved writing, and

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expressing myself, and, you know, in the

90s, we went to play outside, we making

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them dances, and we recording tapes,

and, like, you know, I'm feeling my age.

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Like, So I'm not that old, like

I'm not a dinosaur guys, but I'm,

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you know, I'm, I'm in my thirties.

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rob: Cause we was like, we was like young

enough to like know about CDs and like

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just young enough to be able to make fun

of 8 tracks, you know what I'm saying?

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Right.

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and, and, and vinyls and all

that stuff, but we like knew

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what it was and how it worked.

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But we also were young enough

to like have AOL and dial up

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and you know what I'm saying?

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Like so.

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a payne: Mhmm.

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Oh, I stay

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rob: with AOL.

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All of y'all.

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a payne: Right, I stay with AOL.

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I have the free little trial disc.

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I never pay for it.

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Okay, so.

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Remember, you remember the CDs?

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Like you could get like a

hundred CDs for a penny and shit?

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Like everything.

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rob: They used to just send

them to people's houses.

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I remember when we, when we

finally did like move to Elk

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Grove when I was in high school.

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We would just get disc in the mail.

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Like 63 minutes of ale,

you know what I mean?

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Online time.

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All you had to do was have it

clicked up to the, to the phone line.

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I don't think my parents even knew

what internet was until like May after

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I graduated, but I had been online.

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a payne: Right.

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My parents are older.

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So.

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My parents are much older.

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So my dad, he was actually like,

he was like 46 when I was born.

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Okay.

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My mom, she was in her late

30s and shit like that.

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So they ain't know

nothing about no internet.

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I'm doing all types of shit.

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Like, but what I really,

I was being creative.

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Like, I even as a child, like

that's when I've, I've always

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been interested in media.

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I wasn't like classically trained.

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Like I used to use photoshop

and things like that.

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I don't do it so much now because

now that I'm doing music and I'm

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putting my own visuals and I'm writing

my own songs, I'd rather just, you

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know, like shit, it's too much.

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Like, I mean, if you're a one man

band by all means, but I'd rather

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work with other content creators too.

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And we all, you know,

shit, promote each other.

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That's all, that's all we

got at the end of the day.

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rob: Well, speak to that.

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I think that goes to a lot of like,

what I've made the show for, right?

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Hyperview, like, we kind of like

previously talked about, you

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know, is about that balance.

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And I really do, or I try to, stick to a

descriptive like community like you really

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like you cannot do this on your own.

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I've been doing it for 10 maybe 13

years now being an entrepreneur and

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most people don't even know what I do.

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But it's not because I'm

not good at what I do.

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I just wasn't going out and talking to

people like I didn't find that to be a

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priority so for me it was like no you

need to prioritize like bridging that gap.

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Being aware of other people, not

only for what you can get from them,

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but what you can do for them, right?

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Like, you can see it as You can see it

as I want to use this person because

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they make good videos, but you could

also see it as I want to give them

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an opportunity to be able to do and

work in the capacity that they love.

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Right.

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And they can't do that without me

working in the capacity that I love.

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Right.

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And that's really what I'm like.

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I'm trying to reframe not only my

own mind, but everybody's mind to

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be able to think in that capacity

because the money is just a right.

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A outcome of you helping

somebody else, right?

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You serve somebody else, you

solved a problem for them.

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The more you can do that,

the more money you will have.

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So like the end goal should be

money is how could I be a more,

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more value to somebody else?

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You know what I mean?

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So you speak to like building

community and like wanting to work

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with people in the capacities where

that's their specialty and you can

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respect that and be like, I don't

need to, you know what I'm saying?

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Take my time up when somebody loved doing

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a payne: this.

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Right.

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And, and for me, money is not

really the issue that to me, money

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is just a, a, a tool that lets me

know, Hey, I respect your time.

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Let's get this done.

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Let's get to work.

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I've been in entrepreneur.

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I'm licensed cosmetologist first

and foremost, but after COVID hit,

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I have, I have, I have my own small

business and I had lost my clientele

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due to COVID and, you know My own

mental issues, depression, you know

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rob: COVID come around slapping,

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a payne: COVID whoop my ass.

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I'm like, hold on.

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What the fuck?

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Like, I'm saying, sorry,

can we cuss on here?

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I was

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rob: like, this is my show.

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Right, right.

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I was like, you know, I'll let

them tell me, take it down.

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a payne: Right, right.

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But as far as I was entrepreneur

for six years pre COVID, COVID hit.

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I went to a deep depression and

you know, just my life story,

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whatever, like I was drinking and

doing the most and I had experienced

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a bad breakup and all that shit.

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And I just had to take a step

back and get my life together.

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Now I have a nine to five

and I fucking hate it.

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Like, it's just not

really what I want to do.

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It's, it's not conducive to what

I'm trying to do, but I understand

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like, you know, we have to pay

bills and things like that.

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But when you're an entrepreneur,

you're just a dreamer period,

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like a content creator.

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Like you literally just think of

things and imagine things all the time.

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And even as a grown person, like a lot of

people project their fears on you because.

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They they're scared to dive

into their imagination.

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I play all day.

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I don't care.

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I'm never going to grow up.

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Like, as far as like, I get it.

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Like I have children, I'm married.

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I have priorities, but at the

same time, it's like, you have

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to take some type of risk.

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You've got to take some type of gamble.

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I, my goal was never to work for 40,

50 years for another company while, and

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then I get a fucking check at the end.

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What?

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a pension every month from then,

and then I have to budget that.

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Like, I'd rather if I can take the risk.

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I'm just a risk taker.

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I'm also not in a unsafe sense.

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It's just like I spent so much

time being reserved, I guess.

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I mean, I guess I'll say I

was an introvert as a younger

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person, but now it's like, shit.

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You can't, I mean, you can be

introvert to a certain extent.

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It's just, I like to be around

creatives that fuel my creative side.

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It's really like, it helps

me with my mental health.

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And I can't like that whole

A type personality jobs.

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I cannot fucking stand them, honestly.

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I don't care.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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No,

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rob: they're not.

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I think you figure out

very quickly, right?

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Because there's, I won't say

there's two types of people.

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I feel like the majority of people,

some people are just being lazy, right?

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Like they just don't want to work for

nobody and they have an authority problem.

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Doesn't mean you should be a boss.

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You just got some shit

you need to work out.

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Right?

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Right.

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Other people, right?

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They are not fit to be an

employee because they are a boss.

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Like, I don't, I understand that

I should not be here, not because

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I cannot do the work, because I

understand that my capacity is higher

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than what you currently have me doing.

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Right?

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Like, you know what I'm saying?

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I'll

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a payne: get the money.

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Don't give me, nah, I play the game now.

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100%.

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I need my check.

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But if you get, go too fucking far, let

me walk about this job for a act of fool.

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rob: Right.

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No.

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And, but that's the, and

that's the thing, right?

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It's like you're, and that's

what makes you a boss.

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Right.

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To me, right.

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A boss is not somebody who can't

work for somebody else because

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in some way you're leveraged for

somebody else in all capacities.

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Right.

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Like whether you're in your

own business or you're working

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for somebody else, right.

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Like you're, you're leveraged

for somebody else's deal.

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Right.

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So you're always going to have

kind of some kind of hierarchy.

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The, the, the trick is right.

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How, how, how do I want to

fit into that cog, right?

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Do I want to trade my ability?

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To be able to make a limited income

for security and safety, right?

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Because that's what a 95 is, right?

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Like, I know this check is

coming, regardless of the level of

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effort that I put forward, right?

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I've already negotiated a certain

set of money towards Hours, right?

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And as long as I show up for that

amount of time, I can pretty much

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calculate what I'm going to get.

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While as entrepreneurship is like,

you're saying as more of a risk, right.

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And an upfront investment of time

and energy without any like immediate

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gratification of money coming back.

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You know what I mean?

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Or real big money, like a lot of times.

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The most of the entrepreneurs

that I talked to, especially the

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ones that are making, let's say

six, seven, eight figures, right?

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They fail for a long time.

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You know what I mean?

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Like they've sucked for a

while until they got it right.

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a payne: Failure is sucking.

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It's like, you're literally

learning something like.

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You can go to somebody's company, and

they give you a fuckin shelf of fuckin

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Oh, this is what you do, this is your

job description, blah, blah, blah, that's

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cool, but it's not, it's not that you're

failing, it's like you're literally trying

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to learn, like, as far as, like, music.

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That's, like, It's like a kind of drop

in a bucket type thing because everybody

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wants to do music but the real like

how people they use their music to

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promote products they use their music

to they get going to different avenues.

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rob: You gotta have a plan about yourself.

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Yeah, right.

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You can't just be out trying to just do it

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a payne: to do it.

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And that's what I learned.

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I've been signed before and things

like that, like a local label,

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whatever, signed a few years back.

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So I've been doing music since

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Okay.

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Not consistently, but on and off.

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I started out in Sacramento.

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You remember Blue Lamp,

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rob: right?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I do.

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I I, I performed there myself, been

the shows the whole nine years.

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Right, right,

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a payne: right.

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So I was a part of the whole,

like, you know what I'm saying?

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Like.

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She's good people.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Say shout out to Gabby.

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Shout out to Chauncey.

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Like, I met some amazingly dope artists.

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I've had my own show there in

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It's not on streaming no more.

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'cause it got to them because at

that time, you know I had a that's

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my husband and my son coming in.

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So if you hear a baby

screaming, don't you?

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All

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rob: good?

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. You all good baby?

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a payne: Norm.

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Okay.

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So basically I've been in Sacramento

ince I moved to Sacramento in:

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I lived there until 2018 and then I've

been back and forth like as far as

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my business and I just started like

kind of, I had to be my own boss.

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I was working for myself.

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I was a new mom with my

oldest daughter at the time.

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And I just had to promote myself,

like, that is, I don't know what it is.

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It's like a certain type of energy, like

an entrepreneurial energy in Sacramento.

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It's like, I'm going to

get up and go do something.

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I'm just going to stand outside.

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Fuck it.

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Like, you want your hair done, girl?

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Yeah, come on.

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Like, I literally, like, that's

how I used to promote myself.

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And it's like, it was like, so cool.

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Like, not to say that Stockton, like,

isn't the same, but it's like, kind of,

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if people grew up with you and they seen

you in school and things like that, I'm

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like, oh, that's My real name is Tanya.

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Oh, that's just Tanya from Narnia.

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I'm paying right now.

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Watch who you talking

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rob: to.

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Hey, look, they said, they said Jesus

couldn't even make no, couldn't make

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any miracles happen where he was from.

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Cause the lack of belief.

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Nah, cause he couldn't do it

cause he did it everywhere else.

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They just didn't believe that.

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He's like, I mean, I'm out of here.

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You know, and they just

saw him as little Jesus.

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You know what I'm saying?

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a payne: As, as a, I feel like now, like

the Valley, the central Valley where

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like, you know, it's starting to be

more unity and things of that nature.

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But like the blue lab was fucking tough.

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Like I used to go there

and they didn't know me.

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I wasn't from Sacramento.

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So like, Hey y'all, I'm just

talking to Californians.

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People will walk out.

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Like, who is this?

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And then I'm like, well, fuck it, huh?

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And then everybody come

back in like, who the fuck?

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So heck, make a name for yourself.

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I'm not famous or nothing,

but you know, I mean, right.

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rob: Niggas know , Hey,

talent speaks for itself.

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But I mean, to, to, to go back to

like the, you suck phase, right?

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Like.

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I feel like you do like, and I,

cause I'm just a realist, right?

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Like you do suck compared to like

how much better you'll be in a year

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or two years or three years, right?

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Like you gotta allow yourself that

time to suck so you can get better.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, cause if you don't

go through that suck phase.

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You won't ever be better or if

you don't start because you think

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a payne: you're gonna say me when

I when I think of the word I'm very

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Well, I've grown out of being super

duper self critical okay, so When I

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say failure or I've seen something that

will Smith has said he said he said

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you have to be able to not be Afraid

to fail forward meaning keep failing

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keep failing keep failing keep failing

eventually, you know, so you gotta you

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gotta win it's like You practicing?

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It's like, I used to play instruments.

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I used to play piano and guitar.

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But because I wasn't being encouraged

by like my friends and things like that.

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Oh, why you want to play guitar?

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Why you want to bitch?

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Mind your business.

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Like that's what I should have

said at the time, but I didn't.

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I was a kid, you know,

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rob: right, right, right, right.

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a payne: It took me a while

to I was petrified to sing.

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I didn't really, nobody really,

none of my close friends and

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family knew I could sing.

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So like I was fucking like grown.

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All right, bitch.

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I've been doing this in my room.

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I've been practicing.

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Well, I've been sucking

in my room for you.

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:

I'm not no pause.

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:

Well, that's not like I've been I've been

practicing in my room for years, you know,

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so This is a family show But yeah, so give

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rob: him an uncle roger.

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Sorry children, you know, you

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a payne: know I I literally just Music is

like a part of my heart Son, is he loose?

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My son, he, he on one, he ain't even two,

he only one and a half, he trippin Is he

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rob: loose?

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No that's a, that's a common thing I

think from all of people, right, is

433

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that we get to this, this place where

it's like, because the people who

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are closest to us, friends, families,

people who we would think like, bro,

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you'll support me just cause you

know me and you know I'm the shit.

436

:

Right.

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:

Right.

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Or, you know what I'm saying?

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And, and like, you love me,

you would want to support me.

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They'd be like, you can't say like,

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a payne: And

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rob: nobody has, unless you come from

it, like, there's a few people that I,

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that I, that I look to like Killer Mike.

444

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Dave Chappelle, like Kanye West, right?

445

:

People may not like everything

that they do, but they're

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very secure in who they are.

447

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They're very confident in their vision.

448

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And one thing that they all have

in confident was a very strong

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foundational, like family support

that was like, you could do it.

450

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Believe in yourself, have

a vision and go after it.

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Cause to be honest, that's all that's,

that's really, what's important is that

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if you can stay hyper and like focused

on your vision, you wouldn't have gave

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a shit what nobody was talking about.

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Right, right.

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No, nothing.

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Nobody would have had to say what

it mattered unless it was going

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towards what your vision was.

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Cause that's what I ought to,

wasn't been important to you, but

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:

nobody really teaches us how to

do that until later on in life.

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:

After we've accepted all these

retarded ass agreements that

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:

don't really serve us, but we've.

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We didn't know how not to do that.

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You know what

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a payne: I mean?

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Well, for me, I come from a musical

family, but they work, it's like

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I have a lot of family and nursing

and corrections and shit like that.

467

:

I never, as a shorty, I never wanted

to fucking do none of that shit.

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:

I'm gonna fucking sing.

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Like, I don't

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rob: know what's right.

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Oh, you think you

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a payne: is shit.

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You'll see For me I thrive off a

motherfucking doubt me Let me give me

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a you know what I'm saying, but I did

have support But my family, my parents

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:

are older and things of that nature.

476

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Like, you know, we didn't really

have the, in the nineties and early

477

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two thousands, like a lot of people

wanted you to shelf out all this

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money to, you know, do what you do.

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:

And it was, you know, they would,

if you just, you know, have your.

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Regular job and shit.

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Like my parents took care of me, like

I had a stable ba you know, a stable

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:

childhood and things of that nature.

483

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But she was like, I didn't

go shot at this shit.

484

:

I had to invest in myself and say fuck it.

485

:

Like, fuck what people think.

486

:

And like, and it was hard for me

to accept, like, it was like I'm

487

:

making music and you know, my shit

might've been garage band at the

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:

time, but that's all I can afford.

489

:

And it was amazing to me, like just

being able in the element to create.

490

:

It was so cool, but it took me years

to learn about quality and working

491

:

with artists and have working with

a label and they're not seeing

492

:

my vision and I'm the songwriter.

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:

So it's like, but I, you know,

I understand like when you're

494

:

a label, you're pretty much

an employee of the label.

495

:

So I understand that now, but

496

:

rob: I was, everybody's leverage, right?

497

:

What part of you in the cog?

498

:

a payne: They want me to make

extremely vulgar music, which

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:

I mean, don't get me wrong.

500

:

I'm grown, you know, we do, we do

as adults, but as far as like, I

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:

don't want to me personally, I really

look at music at art, not trying to

502

:

go viral, not trying to be cliche

or catchy or I don't give a fuck.

503

:

I basically make this music that

I want to hear for myself because.

504

:

It got to a point where I was just

tired of hearing certain shit.

505

:

Like I would literally get mad.

506

:

Like, I'm like, what the

fuck is this on the radio?

507

:

Yo, like, really?

508

:

You know, but

509

:

rob: then I'd be,

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:

a payne: you know, I'm a hater.

511

:

Oh, you old.

512

:

And like the internet is insane.

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:

Like.

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:

I have Twitter and stuff like that.

515

:

And a lot of times, you know,

people become unhinged on Twitter.

516

:

Like I'll send a random comment

on a random thread and he

517

:

will, Oh, you're failed singer.

518

:

Oh, you're this, you're

that blah, blah, blah.

519

:

I'm like, did you watch my video?

520

:

Thank you.

521

:

And

522

:

rob: the crazy part to me, and thank you,

yes, thank you for watching my video.

523

:

Thank you for knowing I'm a singer.

524

:

Thank you for having an opinion on if

I'm still succeeding or not, because

525

:

most people just don't even care.

526

:

So the fact that you took time out

of your day to write a comment, I

527

:

appreciate you bro, whether it's good,

bad, or indifferent, but most people

528

:

will allow themselves to never reach

their dreams just because they're

529

:

afraid of that type of comment, right?

530

:

Like when that's a compliment.

531

:

a payne: I love social media.

532

:

Like I, I talk crap all day.

533

:

Like that's kind of like where I

have a dark ass sense of humor.

534

:

I'm fucking terrible, but I'm not like a

heartless person, but I have a dark sense

535

:

of, you know, like, you know, I like.

536

:

Dirt comedy like Dave Chappelle's

on my favorite comedian

537

:

Chris rock, you know, fucking

538

:

rob: davis is shit.

539

:

I love him

540

:

a payne: bernie mack You know Williams,

you know i'm saying like who's your

541

:

rob: who's your musical influences?

542

:

a payne: My musical influences.

543

:

Okay, so I have a few so alia would

be one of my musical influences

544

:

I just love her the tone of her

voice and like just her spirit and

545

:

effortlessness That she had alia Missy

elliott as far as creativity I'm Drake.

546

:

I know people are like Drake,

cause he's so extra, but I

547

:

love his songwriting ability.

548

:

I love his versatility

and things of that nature.

549

:

And who else?

550

:

Frank Ocean.

551

:

Frank Ocean is like, he's like one of

the, he's one of the artists that made

552

:

me feel like, okay, I could write.

553

:

Like I used to be petrified to write.

554

:

I didn't know what the fuck to write.

555

:

I'm like, Oh my God, I

don't know what to write.

556

:

It's like, I could sing, but

I don't know what to write.

557

:

And who else?

558

:

I love Keisha Cole.

559

:

Like I just had to shout out to Keisha.

560

:

She on tour right now.

561

:

I'm trying to, Keisha and Keisha

is another person that I was like,

562

:

man, she's from like Oakland.

563

:

I'm like, Oh my God.

564

:

Like, she's like, not, I'm not

from Oakland, but like, well, like

565

:

if she can do it, I can do it.

566

:

And she was so young and

just doing her thing.

567

:

Yeah, no,

568

:

rob: Keisha should be a, a, a

poster child for if she can do

569

:

it, literally anybody can do it.

570

:

Like

571

:

a payne: she came from the struggle.

572

:

Just be screaming at people.

573

:

She came from the struggle and nothing

and I will argue somebody down who say she

574

:

can't say I'm like you guys Keisha mess

up Okay, don't don't play with me about

575

:

no Keisha Now shit enough is it somebody

576

:

rob: don't play about the bay area queen

577

:

a payne: Somebody somebody on twitter

don't say but monica can't sing.

578

:

I said monica

579

:

rob: Now monica can sing

580

:

a payne: for sure monica can sing her

butt off and shout out to brandy as well

581

:

now brandy I feel like she has a more

versatile style and voice and she can

582

:

rob: stand by i'll stand behind

her brandy for sure I can't

583

:

face versatility, vocal control.

584

:

She got it for sure.

585

:

Yeah.

586

:

a payne: But we're not going

to say Monica can't sing.

587

:

Yeah.

588

:

rob: Monica can sing.

589

:

I would, I would, I would dare to say I

could put a Monica over a Keshia Cole.

590

:

Man.

591

:

a payne: It's not, I can't.

592

:

I can't pick, but as a child,

I actually wanted to be Monica.

593

:

Like

594

:

rob: I could

595

:

a payne: really sing y'all

y'all check out my shit, man.

596

:

But

597

:

rob: we definitely, we go right.

598

:

That's going to blow us up

599

:

a payne: for sure.

600

:

As a kid, like I was like,

Oh my gosh, I love usher.

601

:

I love Monica.

602

:

I just love the whole era of music.

603

:

Like.

604

:

That nineties, it was like

605

:

rob: riff.

606

:

Real nineties era.

607

:

Nineties.

608

:

Early 2000.

609

:

Early two thousands.

610

:

Yeah.

611

:

I had

612

:

a payne: no, no business

listening to It's a cool girl,

613

:

like, mom, can I borrow your cd?

614

:

She like, yeah.

615

:

rob: It was a different vibe back then.

616

:

Like vibe.

617

:

A totally different vibe

than like what you would like

618

:

even now I feel like 'cause.

619

:

Even on the radio.

620

:

I feel like they like five, 10 years back

still, like we:

621

:

It's just a different vibe

of the music that you hear,

622

:

like coming out, like Right.

623

:

The newest CDs that are coming,

you know, or cd the newest tapes

624

:

that's coming out are albums.

625

:

Right.

626

:

You know what I mean?

627

:

Right.

628

:

a payne: The eps and the, and

the streaming, you know, like the

629

:

whole it's really changed the game.

630

:

I really just, I love just.

631

:

R& B, but I also I'm not gonna cap like

I love some rap and things like that But

632

:

I just love one of my favorite rappers is

Roddy Ricch like one of the newer rappers

633

:

and stuff He's hella dope to me but I

just like people who like you can to me

634

:

you can kind of tell like If a person is

being authentic or they're being trendy to

635

:

me, I mean, I don't know maybe I don't I

don't know It's like I just don't want to

636

:

hear no You know, shout out Stacey Redd.

637

:

I respect her hustle her grind,

but personally i'm not seeing

638

:

a Listen to a whole car right?

639

:

It's 60 red.

640

:

I might play a couple of songs.

641

:

I'm not going to catch.

642

:

You do got some

643

:

rob: cool little.

644

:

If she came on in the club or

something, like I'm not going to leave

645

:

the dance floor, but like, right.

646

:

I'm never gonna download one of her songs.

647

:

No, you know what i'm

648

:

a payne: saying?

649

:

It's just not it don't I don't relate

but you know, it's like oh you old head.

650

:

I'm like, bitch.

651

:

I am not old like No, well,

652

:

rob: I'm just real particular

about like And exactly.

653

:

I try to remember when I was 18, 19,

20, but then I also, I'm just like,

654

:

I'm just real particular about the

vibes and what I put into my body.

655

:

If I'm a, if I'm cool with

somebody screaming, whatever

656

:

she's saying at me, then I'm cool

with saying it, which I'm not.

657

:

Right?

658

:

Like, otherwise why am I listening to it?

659

:

You know what I mean?

660

:

Cause I just like her personality.

661

:

Even if I'm saying it back to myself

in my head, you know what I'm saying?

662

:

I am saying it.

663

:

So it's like, I don't

want that kind of energy.

664

:

I feel it.

665

:

a payne: I feel it.

666

:

You so mature now.

667

:

I'm not going to cap like it.

668

:

It's not even that I listen to her.

669

:

It's like if you're on TikTok and

you'd be like beating that ass up.

670

:

Oh wait.

671

:

The kids, right?

672

:

rob: Exactly.

673

:

But

674

:

a payne: I don't, I don't listen to that

type of stuff around my kids at all.

675

:

Like I don't know from my children at

all, but they can, but you know, my older

676

:

kids, like you kind of can't escape it.

677

:

Like it's on TikTok.

678

:

It's on youtube.

679

:

Exactly.

680

:

rob: So it's like they listen to worse

music than I I know they do I know

681

:

a payne: You remember LimeWire

fucked the computers up.

682

:

rob: And they got worse.

683

:

They got, they got more new,

better shit than we ever had.

684

:

That we don't even know nothing.

685

:

And I'll be like, I know I'm a little hip.

686

:

I try to stay up on my

trends and everything.

687

:

And I know I don't know all

the new age, young people shit.

688

:

Cause I ain't young.

689

:

Like I'm just not in it like they are.

690

:

And I know they know how to

keep a decent sized secret.

691

:

But those from the

nineties be leaking shit.

692

:

We'll for sure put that shit out,

693

:

a payne: man.

694

:

And you know, it's like son, quit crying.

695

:

See, this is my life.

696

:

This is, this is my life all

the time, but I don't judge.

697

:

I don't judge, but I'll say I like art.

698

:

I like art.

699

:

I love art.

700

:

Like Frank Ocean is like really a

big inspo as far as my writing style.

701

:

I like Frank.

702

:

I just released the I just released

the EP last summer called Hammer Skate.

703

:

It's like, it's really, it's the vibes.

704

:

Like I like different styles.

705

:

I see that.

706

:

rob: You got a video to that one, right?

707

:

a payne: Yeah.

708

:

That's slow down.

709

:

But.

710

:

It's a six track EP and Hammer Skate

is like, basically like, it was it's

711

:

like Cowskate in Sacramento, but it's

like the one, it's closed down now.

712

:

It's in Stockton.

713

:

It was like a coming of age, like, it

was like, basically what was the cast?

714

:

Like when we

715

:

rob: used to go hang out at

the stadium, we had Cowskate.

716

:

He used to pop.

717

:

a payne: Like, I done been to all the

little skating rinks, but Hammerskate

718

:

was my local thing, and I just, I had

to tap back into, like, the essence of

719

:

where I started to have a love for music.

720

:

Like, I had to tap into my

inner child, like, It's okay

721

:

to make your inner child happy.

722

:

Like, don't ever forget that guys.

723

:

Like, yes, we're grown.

724

:

Yes, we have responsibilities

and kids and bills.

725

:

Aha, who gives a fuck?

726

:

I have to do what makes me happy.

727

:

So I'm really proud of that project.

728

:

And I've been getting good reviews.

729

:

I've been, you know, rocking shows.

730

:

In Sacramento, Oakland, freaking Modesto.

731

:

Like it's, I've been pushing it, like just

all self promotion and, but shout out to

732

:

Emo, he's based in Sacramento as well.

733

:

He's like, basically like one of

the staples and like my, like, he's

734

:

like a big brother in music and I

really appreciate that he gave me.

735

:

He just, he's really cool.

736

:

He works with anybody and everybody,

as long as you do good business.

737

:

And we got some, you know,

so if I send you the email,

738

:

don't be playing no games now.

739

:

Like, don't mess up my referral

if I send you there, but he's

740

:

a really good friend of mine.

741

:

He's given me opportunities throughout the

years, as far as like, I got to perform

742

:

at one of his birthday shows years ago,

and no one knew who the hell I was, but

743

:

he just respected my hustle and my grind.

744

:

So it's like, I really take.

745

:

relationships, like organic relationships,

personal, especially in this music shit,

746

:

because it's hard to, you know, run

across people that really just want to

747

:

keep in music and not on the messy shit.

748

:

So,

749

:

rob: yeah, no, I know.

750

:

I'm sure you run into that as a female,

you know, dudes that want to, you know,

751

:

a payne: I ain't gonna go if I'm married

752

:

rob: now.

753

:

Yeah, favorite type shit, you know.

754

:

Oh, there ain't no favorite,

755

:

a payne: bro.

756

:

Right.

757

:

I mean, I was young.

758

:

You know what I'm saying?

759

:

Shit, we all do some shit.

760

:

You know what I mean?

761

:

I don't know what it is

to survive and survive.

762

:

You know what I'm saying?

763

:

Right.

764

:

I was young.

765

:

Right.

766

:

I'm married now.

767

:

And my lawyer said I can't

talk about it no more.

768

:

rob: Damn.

769

:

And so, do that be hubby in the videos?

770

:

a payne: Yes.

771

:

That's my husband.

772

:

rob: So he supports you and

the videos and the music and

773

:

the entrepreneurship ventures.

774

:

a payne: Yes, and we actually

met at a rap battle in:

775

:

Oh, that's dope.

776

:

We met at a rap battle that

we were both on the deal.

777

:

rob: Oh, y'all was both, John, and who

778

:

a payne: won?

779

:

No, I didn't.

780

:

Actually, my opponent

ended up not showing up.

781

:

And his did too.

782

:

So he, like, it was like,

kind of like a wild card.

783

:

I gotta buy?

784

:

Okay.

785

:

No, no, no.

786

:

He got to, they like, basically

whoever showed up, it was

787

:

like a wild card type thing.

788

:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

789

:

He was battling.

790

:

My opponent didn't show up,

so I ended up freestyling.

791

:

I don't even rap, like, but

that's how much I love music.

792

:

I'm like, fuck it.

793

:

Yeah, yeah, fuck.

794

:

I would show up and make it happen.

795

:

So it was like yeah, we met in 2018

and then we were friends for two years.

796

:

Then 2020 rolled around, we started

dating, we dated for five months,

797

:

got married, been married almost four

years now, so that's our love story,

798

:

but you know, it's hard, especially,

you know, being musicians together,

799

:

like it's, it's hard, I don't know,

I've always kind of dated guys that do

800

:

music or involved in music, producer,

whatever, and it's kind of hard to work

801

:

with people that have control issues.

802

:

It's for, you know what I mean?

803

:

It's like, this ain't no iQtina type shit,

but I'm saying like, it's a lot of people

804

:

that like, It's a lot of people that

like to put a cap on your creativity or,

805

:

you know, it's okay if, you know, you're

doing hooks and stuff for them, but as

806

:

soon as you want to step out and do your

own thing, it's a problem type thing.

807

:

We got an issue.

808

:

Right.

809

:

And I feel like I've never been like that.

810

:

Like my daughter's dad, we started

out doing music together as well.

811

:

He got, he helped me get into like

recording and things like that nature.

812

:

I had never recorded.

813

:

I've always written like poems and

hooks and stuff like that, but I

814

:

never had a studio access to a studio.

815

:

So we're, we ain't on the best terms, but

you know, I am appreciative of the things

816

:

that he showed me and, you know, I tried,

817

:

rob: I mean, some people's first season,

some people, you know, that's that.

818

:

And that's all

819

:

a payne: I pick up,

Sam, but as far as like.

820

:

Musically and romantically,

it's not easy for couples.

821

:

I will say, we're not big time yet,

but I feel like in my heart and my

822

:

soul, it's like, I'm gonna let you

express yourself the way you want to.

823

:

And it's hard to not take it.

824

:

Being a musician that said your

partner don't take a song personal

825

:

or they feel like, Oh, you're

talking about something else.

826

:

But when I, when I have that

understanding, when I compose

827

:

a song, it's an experience.

828

:

In my romantic life, period.

829

:

So, fuck it.

830

:

Right, right, right.

831

:

I can't help, I can't, I can't.

832

:

Hinder my creativity with the partner.

833

:

And this is the first time I've

actually been able to express

834

:

myself and we have disagreements.

835

:

And he's like, who the

hell did I tell him about?

836

:

I'm like, babe, it's not about no one.

837

:

No, I'm just kidding.

838

:

He's hella cool.

839

:

But yeah, he's, he's been in

the battle scene, actually.

840

:

We're both from Stockton and stuff.

841

:

So he's, he's a little older than me.

842

:

So he was like doing like the rap

battles in the jungle back in the day.

843

:

I wasn't doing music, music at the time.

844

:

So it was like, In

845

:

rob: that capacity.

846

:

Right.

847

:

Okay.

848

:

Okay.

849

:

What were we talking about?

850

:

We were doing what?

851

:

I don't know.

852

:

a payne: Inspirations.

853

:

Oh yeah.

854

:

Inspirations.

855

:

Well, like I have many inspirations.

856

:

I feel like My personal romance

experience, like, from Heartbreak or,

857

:

you know, Love, you know, the whole

fuzzy honeymoon phase shit that's like,

858

:

inspires, like, a lot of my music.

859

:

I didn't really know how to, like,

write from that, yeah, the lyrics.

860

:

I didn't know how to write from that

standpoint, because I was young,

861

:

I really didn't experience What I

thought was heartbreaking until I did.

862

:

I'm like, Oh, but it's

for me, it's therapy.

863

:

And you know, it's unfortunate.

864

:

Like when you do do R and B or you

do like singing stuff, it was like,

865

:

I can't wait till she get her heart

broke again so I can get a new album.

866

:

But you know, Let's

867

:

rob: go.

868

:

Well, you learn, I think you learn how to

like just revisit those places, understand

869

:

those emotions on a deeper level so

that you can conjure it, you know, at

870

:

will versus having to experience it.

871

:

But experiences are the best teachers and

the best narrators for lyrics for sure.

872

:

Cause you can, somebody could

explain to you how much it hurt,

873

:

but until you feel it yourself,

you don't know how deep that hurt

874

:

a payne: is, man.

875

:

Well, like, you know, a lot of times.

876

:

As I, you know, I'll be watching like,

you know, self help podcast and stuff.

877

:

A lot of times, you know, we, we as

women and men, we fall in love with

878

:

the idea of a person or the potential

of a person and what we could see

879

:

them being and stuff like that.

880

:

And then when, when it's not that when

reality sets in, it's like, this is

881

:

really how this person is like, Oh my God,

like, but I'm saying it's a part of life.

882

:

It's a lot of love and

experience, but I I'm blessed

883

:

to be able to reflect on things.

884

:

and be able to convey it in a way where

it's not, I'm, I'm not here to promote

885

:

like, niggas ain't shit and all that shit.

886

:

Cause I mean, we all ain't shit at

some point, but I really want to

887

:

just, that's why I love 90s and early

:

888

:

It could be a terrible story, but it's

the way it's laid and conveyed and I,

889

:

I do music myself, but I would love

to write for other people and like

890

:

collaborate with other writers as well.

891

:

Like that's really my goal ultimately.

892

:

It's like, I personally do enjoy doing

music myself, but I'm not opposed

893

:

to writing for other people because

I feel like my pen is strong and

894

:

I'm working on a new project now.

895

:

I can't give y'all too many

details yet until it's all like,

896

:

you know, the final stages.

897

:

But I definitely am being more consistent

with my music, like I've been dropping

898

:

since last summer, and it feels great, it

feels wonderful, like, I had to take some

899

:

time and step back and recalibrate and do

900

:

rob: my shit.

901

:

What's the vision for

the music moving forward?

902

:

Like what do you, what do

you see yourself a year, two

903

:

a payne: years?

904

:

Oh honey, I see myself.

905

:

Like I said, I see myself

being in, in rooms with people

906

:

writing for other artists.

907

:

I definitely see myself overseas

cause I, I have different genres now.

908

:

I don't just come with R and B.

909

:

I love EDM.

910

:

I love pop.

911

:

I love, I do love rock and roll.

912

:

That's the way to go.

913

:

I haven't got a chance to work

with a rock and roll band yet, but

914

:

that's definitely something I'm

speaking into existence and hit her

915

:

rob: up.

916

:

We going, we going, you

917

:

a payne: know, you know, so Like

I said, if you need hooks versus,

918

:

you know, mama got to pay some

bills, but I don't charge too much.

919

:

It's going to be worth every penny, but

like at the same token, like if we can

920

:

make a classic record and stuff like that,

the money's going to come eventually.

921

:

So.

922

:

I produce.

923

:

rob: We gonna have to do something.

924

:

Okay, okay.

925

:

Let's get it.

926

:

For sure.

927

:

I've been telling everybody that, that

knows that I, you know, cause I have

928

:

a lot of clients that I, I just worked

with me for years and they know how I

929

:

work, which is I'll just take a year off.

930

:

Like I'll just stop doing that.

931

:

Cause I make music cause I like

to make music, not cause of.

932

:

It makes me hella money, which if

I'm doing it consistently, it can

933

:

make me a decent amount of money,

but I've never done it to make money.

934

:

So like, I'll just stop.

935

:

It's

936

:

a payne: literally therapy for me.

937

:

I know that I I've, I've sold features

and stuff before like that, but some

938

:

people didn't use them, whatever.

939

:

That's, that's the thing, whatever,

because a lot, a lot of my music.

940

:

And now I'm more selective on who I

work with as well because don't get

941

:

me wrong, like Northern California,

you know, people have they vibe and

942

:

they gangsta stuff, which is fine.

943

:

But me personally, if I can't relate

to it or stuff like that, I'm not

944

:

gonna, I don't want to contribute to

that record because it's not going

945

:

to coincide with the vision you have.

946

:

So I understand that.

947

:

Right.

948

:

And

949

:

rob: there's a few people there.

950

:

That's an easy way to look at it.

951

:

Like, I can't even, I don't

see where you going with it.

952

:

I can't relate to it.

953

:

So how could I further, you

know what I mean, further that?

954

:

Right, right.

955

:

So I can respect that.

956

:

a payne: Yeah, so you know, I, I, I just,

you know, I love, I love music and I'm not

957

:

opposed to working with different artists

and different genres and stuff like that.

958

:

Like, I love, like, there's 90s

R& B, there's R& B and shit.

959

:

Like, I have, that's what, on this

project, On my last project too, I had

960

:

some like some EDM tempo stuff, but on

this project it's a little more intimate,

961

:

and basically kind of, like, diving into

my shit, my heartbreak, man, and, and,

962

:

like, I'm married now, but I, I, I'm so

grateful to have a patient partner, and

963

:

he understands that, you know, like,

this is literally therapy for me, and,

964

:

you know, and nothing's perfect, no

relationship is perfect, but I try to it.

965

:

Encouraging as well.

966

:

Like just speak your truth.

967

:

You don't have to be like anybody else.

968

:

And that's for any artists

coming up, speak your truth,

969

:

speak what's true to you.

970

:

Right.

971

:

Or, you know, be the voice for

someone else, you know, close to you.

972

:

They don't know how to

convey that certain message.

973

:

I just feel like music has lost not

all artists because there's still

974

:

some very amazing artists out.

975

:

Which is why I'm so proud that, like,

Killer Mike finally won his award, and

976

:

Victoria Monet, she won, and SZA won,

and, like, real artists still, yeah,

977

:

real artists still exist, and it's like,

we just need support, and, you know,

978

:

the young kids don't like what they

like, but I'm saying, I'm making music

979

:

for a more mature audience, it's not

necessarily age bracket or nothing, I'm

980

:

just making more musical substance, and

I'm not gonna say I don't make music.

981

:

Sexy stuff or you know, might have

a cuss word here and there, but I

982

:

really wanna use my vocabulary because

I have an . I might say so much.

983

:

rob: She's impeccable.

984

:

. No, you do.

985

:

You, you, you're well articulated.

986

:

I can definitely thank you.

987

:

You know, there's, there's you, you,

you, you put time into your craft,

988

:

which is appreciated by those of us

who do consume your music and Right.

989

:

Why?

990

:

I will say, keep doing it.

991

:

Keep, keep.

992

:

Thank you.

993

:

Keep putting good music out.

994

:

I like to ask all my guests if there

is a, a piece of advice, something

995

:

that you've learned along the way

that's, that's helped you, right?

996

:

What would you like to give to the

audience that will help them on their

997

:

entrepreneurial journeys, whether

it's music, business, service,

998

:

products, whatever the case may be,

what would you like to help them with?

999

:

a payne: I would say, Honestly, I would

say, like, put God first, honestly,

:

00:43:04,125 --> 00:43:07,825

like, let him be your strength and

your rock and don't let other people,

:

00:43:07,835 --> 00:43:12,095

don't let the opinions of other

people that, we all have visions.

:

00:43:12,445 --> 00:43:17,795

No one can see our vision but us when it's

not externally put into the universe yet.

:

00:43:18,340 --> 00:43:24,100

Believe in your vision, trust your vision,

and just pray, pray, pray, and get around

:

00:43:24,110 --> 00:43:28,400

people that are further, they're doing

similar things, they may be further ahead

:

00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,330

than you, and it's okay to have mentors,

it's okay to have people that show you the

:

00:43:32,330 --> 00:43:36,680

ropes, it's okay to be, I guess, an intern

of the game, you know what I'm saying?

:

00:43:36,690 --> 00:43:40,370

It's like I said, you want to be a boss,

but you gotta learn, we have to learn from

:

00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:43,970

somebody, we don't just wake up freaking

knowing what the hell we're doing.

:

00:43:45,140 --> 00:43:46,610

It was like, it's okay to intern.

:

00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,520

It's like the money,

the money is important.

:

00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,530

Don't get me wrong,

but it's going to come.

:

00:43:50,820 --> 00:43:52,470

It's about how you show up.

:

00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:57,400

It's about being on time, being

professional, not being, you know,

:

00:43:57,460 --> 00:43:59,270

slizzards I didn't been all through that.

:

00:43:59,270 --> 00:44:00,310

I'm saying like, I really.

:

00:44:01,595 --> 00:44:03,145

I overcame so many things.

:

00:44:03,145 --> 00:44:04,165

I overcame heartbreak.

:

00:44:04,165 --> 00:44:05,255

I overcame addiction.

:

00:44:05,255 --> 00:44:10,095

I, I overcame a lot of things in my

young life that I didn't understand.

:

00:44:10,095 --> 00:44:13,005

And I was in a party

scene, whatever that shit.

:

00:44:13,165 --> 00:44:17,195

But when it comes to my family, my kids,

like that's the most important thing.

:

00:44:17,215 --> 00:44:22,435

And I want to do my music now

that I'm, I used to do X pills.

:

00:44:22,775 --> 00:44:25,795

Like I was like in the bill and feeling

myself for hella years and shit,

:

00:44:26,425 --> 00:44:28,085

but I'm almost four years clean now.

:

00:44:28,605 --> 00:44:33,985

And That was a whole fuckin

life shifting experience because

:

00:44:33,985 --> 00:44:35,665

I got ahold of some bad shit.

:

00:44:36,535 --> 00:44:38,985

And I got, I had to go to the hospital.

:

00:44:39,195 --> 00:44:40,435

Like, I almost died off that shit.

:

00:44:41,325 --> 00:44:44,855

So, if I could give a piece

of advice to anybody, like,

:

00:44:45,075 --> 00:44:46,945

stay focused, keep God first.

:

00:44:48,025 --> 00:44:49,605

Stay away from the jokers, man.

:

00:44:49,705 --> 00:44:50,554

That's all I can say.

:

00:44:50,915 --> 00:44:54,905

Stay away from the jokers, man, because

these niggas, you know what I'm saying?

:

00:44:55,065 --> 00:44:56,945

I'm not telling people you

won't do what they want to do.

:

00:44:56,945 --> 00:44:58,635

You know, the party scene,

people want to do what they

:

00:44:58,635 --> 00:44:58,995

rob: want to do.

:

00:44:58,995 --> 00:45:00,025

But yeah, yeah, yeah.

:

00:45:00,025 --> 00:45:03,025

The best, the best teacher is experience.

:

00:45:03,035 --> 00:45:03,895

So, you know what I'm saying?

:

00:45:03,895 --> 00:45:06,255

If you can't learn from somebody

telling you, you're going to go

:

00:45:06,255 --> 00:45:07,355

out there and bump your head.

:

00:45:07,355 --> 00:45:07,935

You know what I'm saying?

:

00:45:08,425 --> 00:45:10,065

Then you'll have this car and you'll know,

:

00:45:11,275 --> 00:45:13,285

a payne: I'm just saying a lot

of people don't get the chance

:

00:45:13,285 --> 00:45:14,415

to bounce back from that shit.

:

00:45:14,415 --> 00:45:16,735

Either they, you know, they're

meant to be prepared for the

:

00:45:16,735 --> 00:45:18,185

rest of their life or they die.

:

00:45:18,635 --> 00:45:19,245

Right.

:

00:45:19,985 --> 00:45:25,945

And, Yeah, I almost died out that

shit, like, I was like, fuck, like, I

:

00:45:25,955 --> 00:45:30,355

guess I was having an active overdose,

but I didn't, I didn't, I didn't

:

00:45:30,365 --> 00:45:33,975

pass out, but I was like, fucking, so

out of my mind, like, people telling

:

00:45:33,975 --> 00:45:37,765

me I'm doing shit, I'm like, no, I

didn't do that, I just blacked out

:

00:45:37,765 --> 00:45:41,025

for like, fucking four days, and I'm

like, what the fuck, where am I at?

:

00:45:41,085 --> 00:45:43,145

Like, that shit ain't cool, man, fuck.

:

00:45:43,215 --> 00:45:43,645

Nah.

:

00:45:43,675 --> 00:45:44,375

Don't do drugs,

:

00:45:44,375 --> 00:45:44,835

rob: kids.

:

00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:47,880

Well, we and all the fans

are happy you are here.

:

00:45:48,030 --> 00:45:50,460

We are happy that you have turned

your life around and you are

:

00:45:50,460 --> 00:45:52,250

giving us this amazing music.

:

00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,190

As I said Auntie,

:

00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:54,880

a payne: just drink a little wine now,

:

00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,560

rob: that's all.

:

00:45:55,610 --> 00:45:56,800

Ain't nothing wrong with a little wine.

:

00:45:57,180 --> 00:45:58,340

They say it's good for your heart, right?

:

00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:58,910

Yeah.

:

00:45:58,910 --> 00:45:59,320

Yeah.

:

00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,120

Lives a day.

:

00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:01,000

You know?

:

00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,475

But That's a pain.

:

00:46:02,515 --> 00:46:03,495

This is dope for life.

:

00:46:03,545 --> 00:46:05,005

And this is the hybrid view podcast.

:

00:46:05,015 --> 00:46:05,925

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:

00:46:05,935 --> 00:46:11,645

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:

00:46:11,645 --> 00:46:12,965

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:

00:46:12,975 --> 00:46:13,655

And it's free.

:

00:46:13,675 --> 00:46:14,825

Don't don't sleep on

:

00:46:14,825 --> 00:46:17,354

a payne: support.

:

00:46:17,355 --> 00:46:18,295

Thank you so much.

:

00:46:18,295 --> 00:46:19,045

I appreciate it.

:

00:46:19,445 --> 00:46:19,685

Check

:

00:46:19,685 --> 00:46:23,075

rob: out a pain everywhere

you can download music.

:

00:46:23,075 --> 00:46:23,255

Stop.

:

00:46:23,585 --> 00:46:24,365

Don't be dumb.

:

00:46:24,455 --> 00:46:25,525

Like type the name in.

:

00:46:25,595 --> 00:46:26,995

Y'all know, y'all know,

:

00:46:27,745 --> 00:46:28,415

a payne: y'all know I'm the

:

00:46:28,415 --> 00:46:29,545

rob: crazy lady on the internet.

:

00:46:30,275 --> 00:46:31,275

Visuals is crazy.

:

00:46:31,285 --> 00:46:32,505

Music is crazy.

:

00:46:32,735 --> 00:46:35,065

And do you got anything

dropping in the near future?

:

00:46:35,225 --> 00:46:39,815

a payne: I do have, I do have some,

I don't have a set date, but I am

:

00:46:39,835 --> 00:46:42,285

almost done with like my first album.

:

00:46:42,295 --> 00:46:44,725

Like I have an album

length worth of music.

:

00:46:44,925 --> 00:46:47,695

So I'm trying to, you know,

I'm trying to wrap it up.

:

00:46:48,785 --> 00:46:53,365

I want to say late summer, maybe early

fall, cause I really don't want to

:

00:46:53,495 --> 00:46:55,375

rob: summer jam, we got a

summer jam coming hopefully.

:

00:46:55,375 --> 00:46:56,904

Oh yeah, I'm gonna drop

in, I got a single.

:

00:46:56,905 --> 00:46:59,868

If not, we gonna have a breezy

fall, you know what I'm saying.

:

00:46:59,868 --> 00:47:01,665

a payne: But look, I just

dropped, I just dropped my latest

:

00:47:01,665 --> 00:47:02,775

single, it's called The Low.

:

00:47:02,775 --> 00:47:04,455

That's T H E L O.

:

00:47:04,455 --> 00:47:10,985

So, if you got me on my Instagram is A P

A Y N E music, spelled the regular way.

:

00:47:10,985 --> 00:47:13,245

You can go on there,

all my links are there.

:

00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,680

So you can see my latest

singles, albums, all that stuff.

:

00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,660

So thank

:

00:47:17,660 --> 00:47:18,000

rob: you so much.

:

00:47:18,060 --> 00:47:19,820

And what's your Instagram, Tik

:

00:47:19,820 --> 00:47:20,580

a payne: TOK, all that good stuff.

:

00:47:20,740 --> 00:47:21,160

Oh yeah.

:

00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,340

Oh, so my Instagram is a pain music

and my Tik TOK is a pain music.

:

00:47:25,350 --> 00:47:28,080

That's P a Y and E music one one six.

:

00:47:28,590 --> 00:47:29,860

Twitter is the same one.

:

00:47:30,290 --> 00:47:30,560

Okay.

:

00:47:30,620 --> 00:47:32,290

Tanya Chamberlain on Facebook.

:

00:47:33,020 --> 00:47:33,690

It's me.

:

00:47:33,690 --> 00:47:35,580

Yeah, it's all good.

:

00:47:37,050 --> 00:47:39,110

rob: Well, that is it, folks.

:

00:47:39,110 --> 00:47:40,690

I appreciate you for staying this long.

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HyperView
HyperView
HyperView is a show that looks at the interconnection between business, relationships, and family. We all have our choices in how way make a living and we have different reasons. We peak behind those reasons to see how they shape who we are an how we interact with the world around us.
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Robert Hardin-Brazelton

Sacramento native Robert Hardin-Brazelton has always had a hunger for success. He is the owner and operator of Brazelton Business Group, LLC (BBG) located in the Sacramento, Ca. The BBG is a property management company that serves as the headquarters for several businesses that operate in the Sacramento area including the current location of D.O.P.E. Studios. Their flagship location houses 7 business and is continuing to expand with Virtual Offices and acquisition of more leasable office space.